Legislature(2005 - 2006)BUTROVICH 205

01/25/2006 08:30 AM Senate JUDICIARY


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Heard & Held
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Heard & Held
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= SB 10 PARENTAL LIABILITY FOR CHILD'S DAMAGE
Heard & Held
          SB 10-PARENTAL LIABILITY FOR CHILD'S DAMAGE                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:37:18 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR RALPH SEEKINS announced SB 10 to be up for consideration.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRETCHEN GUESS, bill sponsor, introduced SB 10 and                                                                      
explained that it was clearly complicated. She offered to give                                                                  
an overview of the sections and then open it up for questions.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Increasingly juveniles are vandalizing  and community members are                                                               
seeking ways  to control and  stop the  vandalizing. Historically                                                               
communities have dealt  with the civil part of the  issue and the                                                               
amount that the  parent is liable for. There  are three different                                                               
processes  a  juvenile  can  go through.  There  is  an  informal                                                               
process with  juvenile justice, a  criminal process, and  a civil                                                               
process. They all deal with  the child and the parent differently                                                               
when it  comes to restitution.  SB 10 is  an attempt to  insert a                                                               
consistent  system  into  law  and   to  start  holding  children                                                               
accountable for their actions. SB  10 proposes to hold a juvenile                                                               
liable for  the first $5,000  worth of damage. The  parents would                                                               
be  responsible for  the  next  $15,000, and  that  comes out  of                                                               
current  law.  The  idea  behind  the bill  is  for  parents  and                                                               
children to create a payment plan  and for the payment plan to go                                                               
past the age of 18. If  the victim were not interested in getting                                                               
full restitution that would be their choice.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:41:28 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GUESS continued  by saying she tried to  create a balance                                                               
of  many  issues,  such  as  restitution  versus  accountability,                                                               
affordability  of the  family, and  the length  of time  it would                                                               
take to make restitution.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:43:58 AM                                                                                                                    
At  the request  of  other members  of  the Legislature,  Senator                                                               
Guess  offered that  a  portion of  the  permanent fund  dividend                                                               
(PFD)  could be  taken to  help  pay for  restitution and/or  the                                                               
driver's  license  of  the  youth  could be  taken  away  or  the                                                               
issuance postponed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:45:34 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SEEKINS  asked Senator Guess  whether SB 10 would  make the                                                               
State of  Alaska responsible  for restitution  in the  case where                                                               
the child is a ward of the state.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS  said no. That language  is in current law  and was                                                               
Senator Fred Dyson's intent of four years ago.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEEKINS felt  the state  should assume  liability if  they                                                               
assumed responsibility.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS advised she would double  check and get back to the                                                               
committee.  "The difficulty  is that  if the  child doesn't  have                                                               
parents or if  they have parents that are  exempt from liability,                                                               
that $15,000  can't be recovered  any other way because  of equal                                                               
protection."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:48:46 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator Gene Therriault joined the committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HOLLIS  FRENCH said the  criminal justice  system's power                                                               
over a minor ends  about a year after they turn  18. He asked how                                                               
the bill  would keep the  power of the  court on the  minor after                                                               
emancipation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS offered to find out and get back to the committee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:51:03 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SEEKINS said  when a court orders restitution;  it shows up                                                               
on that person's  credit report. He asked whether  the same would                                                               
occur.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS said  it was the intent of bill  that it would once                                                               
the person  turns 18. It would  follow the same as  any debt, and                                                               
it would for the parent as well.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CHARLIE  HUGGINS referred  to page  8 lines  7 and  8 and                                                               
noted  "The  schedule  must  provide  for  payments  adequate  to                                                               
fulfill the total restitution amount  before the minor reaches 18                                                               
years if age." He wondered the outcome when this doesn't happen.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS clarified  that was for the informal  action. If it                                                               
couldn't be satisfied by  age 18 it would have to  go to either a                                                               
criminal or civil action.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:54:09 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH asked  the reason for not commanding  the court to                                                               
order  full  restitution and  to  allow  the court  to  apportion                                                               
between  the juvenile  and  the  parents as  the  court sees  fit                                                               
according to the facts of the case.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS said the extremes are  the easy cases. She made the                                                               
policy call to putting a  structure to the restitution instead of                                                               
having the courts  decide things such as negligence  of a parent.                                                               
She  said most  cases are  not black  and white.  She said  there                                                               
could be inequities when depending on the courts to decide.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:57:20 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SEEKINS  said the  bill would strike  a balance  and should                                                               
prod parents to control the activities of their children.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:59:19 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GUESS asserted  many people  have strong  opinions about                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS asked for public testimony on SB 10.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:59:57 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. TONY  NEWMAN, program officer,  Division of  Juvenile Justice                                                               
(DJJ) expressed  concern related to  the sections devoted  to the                                                               
changes in  the apportioning of  restitution between  parents and                                                               
juveniles  as well  as the  revocation of  driver's licenses.  He                                                               
said  placing  restitution solely  on  youth  might decrease  the                                                               
likelihood that  restitution would get  paid. SB 10  could saddle                                                               
youth  with a  debt they  could never  repay. Another  concern is                                                               
that revoking a driver's license  would be issuing a penalty that                                                               
was  not associated  with the  crime. There  is no  evidence that                                                               
juveniles would  be less likely  to commit a crime  knowing their                                                               
driver's license would be revoked.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:02:12 AM                                                                                                                    
The  DJJ has  invested heavily  in  looking at  factors that  are                                                               
linked to delinquent  behavior and have adopted  a new assessment                                                               
tool that will  help target resources and responses  to crime for                                                               
youths with  the highest likelihood  of re-offense. SB 10  has an                                                               
exemption  for taking  away the  driver's license  for those  who                                                               
need transportation  to work. He  suggested juveniles  need their                                                               
license  to  get to  appointments  with  probation officers,  and                                                               
family counseling, among other things.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:03:34 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH asked  the level of conviction required  to pull a                                                               
driver's license.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN said  in SB  10 it  must be  pulled for  a formal  or                                                               
informal case.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEEKINS  asked  Senator  Guess   whether  it  would  be  a                                                               
discretionary or mandatory action on the part of the courts.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS said as written now, it would be mandatory.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  asked Mr. Newman  to describe the  steps required                                                               
to go through both an informal and formal adjudication.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN explained  when a  youth breaks  the law,  the police                                                               
forward a report  to a juvenile justice intake  officer who looks                                                               
at the  facts of the crime  and makes a determination  whether or                                                               
not  to  forward the  case  to  a court  or  to  handle the  case                                                               
informally, which means calling the  parent for a discussion. The                                                               
latter is  done generally  when the damage  is relatively  low in                                                               
value. Many cases  the family will pay to avoid  an appearance in                                                               
court.  In  fiscal year  2005  the  DJJ  gathered 97  percent  of                                                               
restitutions  ordered informally  before case  closure. When  the                                                               
damage gets into  the thousand-dollar range it is  most likely to                                                               
go to the formal level.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:06:18 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  FRENCH  asked  the  court  procedures  during  a  formal                                                               
adjudication.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN explained  the intake officer petitions  the court and                                                               
the  court   brings  the  juvenile   in  and  the   court  orders                                                               
restitution. The  DJJ has an  arrangement with the  Department of                                                               
Law (DOL), which  has a collections unit that  is responsible for                                                               
seeing  that all  restitutions ordered  through the  formal court                                                               
process are paid.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:07:27 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH noted a juvenile  would be given an attorney prior                                                               
to formal  court adjudication and  would have the  opportunity to                                                               
contest the charges.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN  agreed. He said  the process is different  than adult                                                               
court in that  youth are not convicted of  specific charges. They                                                               
are either adjudicated  delinquent or not, based  on many factors                                                               
over and above the specific crime.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked  the legal trigger for  pulling the driver's                                                               
license.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS  corrected the  record saying that  is only  in the                                                               
formal adjudicated process in the bill.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:10:43 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR SEEKINS held SB 10 in committee.                                                                                          

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